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DIXIE and KIRBY
Breeds and the white wolf
What were their breeds?
Breeds
The Downs
Star's Breed
ALaskan Malamutes and other historicical tidbits
Possible Balto 4
The Dog Breeds of Balto - What are the real breeds?
Part 2 - Star's breed
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hey, great article. i never knew that! great article! |
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wait what about star?:P |
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Hmm, quite interesting. I never thought about the different breeds before! Good research + good points to back things up = great article! But I agree: What about Star? Possibly a thin version of a Siberian Husky? I dunno . . . Again, great job on the article! :P |
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cool i was going to write this a few weeks ago but my computer kept crashing star=mixed breed |
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aragneer, May 02, 2006 at 17: 12
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Wow you opened my eyes alot now thank you so much for such a great article. |
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Yes, you did do a good job, however Dixie is something besides a pommy... I cannot remember the name right now, but if I can I will let you know. But for now, she can stay asa pommy!:P |
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Oh yeah, you forgot another one - what about Doc? What breed is he? ;) |
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yeah! what breed is he?:/: |
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Very good information, man! Even tho you left out Star and Doc. You're right on alot of stuff, I even believe now that Nikki's a chow, but I don't THINK he's a mix because some Chow tongues are pink. It's rare for them, tho. He might just be a husky with small ears (adding character) because many of the other huskies in the movie were as "chunky" as he was. I think you're right about Kaltag, but what confuses me is why the animators gave him a fluffy curly tail :! As for Kirby and Ralph...you're probably right. I didn't especially care for the animation or style in the third movie, but yeah the animators did NOT compare them to huskies at all. But I beg to differentiate on Steele. He DOES have malamute qualities, because he's built bigger than the others, like what malamutes are compared to huskies. But the ONLY thing that's keeping me in agreement with you is that malamutes always have brown eyes. But what I think is that since the first movie is the next thing to flawless, I think that he's a malamute and that they just gave him blue eyes for that "evilish" look ;) Still, an excellent article. More descriptive and reasonable than the other one about the Balto dogs' breeds, I must say. :P |
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| Jon2, May 02, 2006 at 23: 30 | ||
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You mentioned he was a mixed breed, but a mix of what breeds? |
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Kodi's girl, May 02, 2006 at 23: 31
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Wow. I never knew, and, I'm glad I could understand now! ^^ |
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Olivia_loves_Bambi, May 02, 2006 at 23: 56
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Sierra, relax! He has features of both! |
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Dacota_Blue, May 03, 2006 at 01: 05
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I have one question. What kind of a dog is Chinook |
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| Jon2, May 03, 2006 at 01: 16 | ||
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There are two more Balto charecters you didn't cover: Morse: The chubby small dog that could read morse code, in the movie balto http://baltosource.timduru.org/img/gallerie1/39.jpg And this one: http://baltosource.timduru.org/img/gallerie2/18.jpg You double posted your last response, tictak. |
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| redwolf03, May 03, 2006 at 02: 09 | ||
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Sorry, but I'm still keeping my view that Steele is a malamute. Always has been, always will be. If someone disagrees, I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm keeping my opinion, and anyone else can have theirs, but that's that. ;) |
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| The Pink Snow Wolf, May 03, 2006 at 02: 35 | ||
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I dont agree with you saying that Steele is a husky. 1:He is much bigger than Balto, because malamutes are like, very BIG.2: Steele did look some what like a husky, but looks more like a malamute. And 3: He was able to beat up Balto, so he has to be a malamute. Trust me I know what a husky looks like.;) |
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| Jon2, May 03, 2006 at 02: 35 | ||
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There are two more Balto charecters you didn't cover: Morse: The chubby small dog that could read morse code, in the movie balto http://baltosource.timduru.org/img/gallerie1/39.jpg And this one: http://baltosource.timduru.org/img/gallerie2/18.jpg You double posted your last response, tictak. |
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Okay to explain this Steele to me is an malamute. Because I have an actual book of dog breeds. He shows one of the traits because Malamutes dislike other dogs and love strangers. His bulk is different from an husky as well. Plus he is not the smartest of all animals, which Malamutes are. Also Kaltag ain't even a chinook. Because I saw a picture of one and Kaltag ain't even one at all. Strange even I have a book for these things. |
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| Brittany, May 03, 2006 at 05: 24 | ||
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I do agree with you that Nikki is a Chow Chow since I own one. The writers were most likly lazy and didn't want to do his tougue black. In some pics of nkki his tougue is bluish/blackish. Pic of chow-chow- http://www.chow-chow.no/images/orginaler/Nugget%20voksen%202.jpg pic of nikki- http://baltosource.timduru.org/img/gallerie1/141.jpg pic of nikki with blue tougue- http://baltosource.timduru.org/img/gallerie1/24.jpg |
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may be Stele is a mix between Malamute an husky. more malamute anyway. only the blue eyes for husky. or he might BE a malamute but the animaters just made him had blue eyes for evil look. doc is a St.Burnard. I'm sure. |
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perfectpureblood, May 03, 2006 at 11: 13
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I agree with some, but not with others. I belive that alot of the dogs you said are husky's and that Stelle is a malamute. and doc is a saint bernard, what about morse? |
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| Abby, May 03, 2006 at 14: 44 | ||
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Dang, adn wheather eh si a amllumute or not, he s still a husky pretty much right:P |
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Is it just me, or would it have been funny if Steele was a half husky, half Malamute? After he was teasing Balto for being half and half, that would be like . . . . sweet revenge, yes? I think he is both: he has the build of a Malamute, but the looks of a husky. That would work perhaps. But I can't believe I forgot about Morse! OMG, what breed is he? :) |
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i dont get why if some of these dogs are not huky then why did they put them on a sled teem°x° i think your wrong |
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sahara-SWP-AF, May 04, 2006 at 00: 52
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so many opinions,so little time.well my opinion is steele could be a mix.he is built like a malamute,yes,but he has blue eyes which signals husky traits.so to me steele could be a mix.>>wolfhound:no one is wrong,there are other dogs that can be on a sled team(not just huskies)i've seen hounds,chinooks,even german shepherds(yes them to)other dogs of the working class can be on a sled team and not just the huskies and malamutes.so ither dogs can pull sleds just like huskies and malamutes.so there you go,other dogs can be on a sled team,and again my opinion is that steele is a mix.good article,explained alot. |
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sahara-SWP-AF, May 04, 2006 at 00: 53
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*other |
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Dixie is not a pomeranian she looks nothing like one. |
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Also Steele isn't a HUSKY because malamutes can get blue eyes as well. And they hate other dogs but love strangers. Like who he hated Balto but loved humans and what the tiro said about him because Steele can be rude to them as well. |
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| Jon2, May 04, 2006 at 02: 04 | ||
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That would be intersting, that steele lied that he was a pedigee, when he was a mutt. Good fanfic idea. Dixie you could say she's pomerain or lapsa opso or both. How about nikki? He could be chow, wuth some slight sibearn huskey. |
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| Jon2, May 04, 2006 at 02: 06 | ||
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That would be intersting, that steele lied that he was a pedigee, when he was a mutt. Good fanfic idea. Dixie you could say she's pomerain or lapsa opso or both. How about nikki? He could be chow, wuth some slight sibearn huskey. |
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| Jon2, May 04, 2006 at 04: 33 | ||
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That would be intersting, that steele lied that he was a pedigee, when he was a mutt. Good fanfic idea. Dixie you could say she's pomerain or lapsa opso or both. How about nikki? He could be chow, wuth some slight sibearn huskey. |
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| kiona girl, May 04, 2006 at 13: 29 | ||
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wow1 great dog breed facts! |
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Olivia_loves_Bambi, May 04, 2006 at 22: 36
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Dixie's not a pomeranian. She could very well be another terrier. |
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Wolfhound: I read your comment, and dogs don't have to be husky to be on a sled team. I think that Doc is a...it's on the tip of my tongue! really! lol And if you guys really feel strongly about your opinions, then go and try to find the official info yourselves. Don't yell at Tiktak...lol Also, just because a dog beat up another doesn't make it a Malamute. Though I agree that he is a husky. Just because you've seen a husky doesn't mean you know all there is to know, trust me. Lolz Huskies are extremely strong dogs, how do you think they can pull those sleds in the cold winter? ^^ Anyways, that was to some of the people that made comments to your awsome article. ^^ |
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Good article, most things i was going to say were already said, but i did read somewhere,(don't remeber where) That there is no such thing as an 'Alaskan Husky'. There's only a Siberian husky, just live in alaskalol I'm not too sure on this, and i'm too lazy to look it up, correct me if you think im wrong |
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The Alaskan Husky is not a breed in its own; it is more a type of dog. This might be a bit confusing, but to our knowledge the Alaskan Husky is not recognized as a breed anywhere in the world. The Alaskan Husky breed is very young and because of the different lines, it is difficult to characterize the dog in an uniform standard. Many mushers consider the breed as a Hybrid Dog or a Siberian Husky "with something else in it...". This "something" can be Setters, wolf, Sight Hound or anything that gives speed and endurance. The Alaskan Husky is always very athletic, with big thigh muscles. They often have the characteristic, curved sled dog tail and can be one colour or multicolour - mainly black, grey and white but also red or brown. They have blue or brown eyes, or sometimes one of each, like some Siberian Huskies. Most often the ears are standing up, but in some cases they are laying down. It is important to understand that this dog is bred for mushing and not for looks. This is one of the main reasons for the different looks of the Alaskan Husky. The breed is popular in sled dog racing (mushing) since it is faster, stronger and more enduring than the Siberian Husky. Alaskan Husky breeders pick the best sled dogs - not the prettiest. It is not as strong as the Alaskan Malamute, the Greenland Dog, the Samoyed or the Chinook but is faster than these breeds as well - the need for sustained effort is less important as speed in sled dog racing over fairly short distances with only one driver". However, if one needs to pull heavy sledges across Greenland, it might be better to choose the Alaskan Malamute or the Greenland Dog. Even for heavy sled loads, the Alaskan Husky is the dog to have, because the Alaskan Husky can also be very big and it is mentally much better than the Alaskan Malamute or the Greenland dog (better work ethics). Also, an Alaskan Malamute has weak feet, and for that reason, can't do long distances. http://www.lusitano.dk/AlaskanHusky/races.htm |
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| redwolf03, May 05, 2006 at 02: 45 | ||
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Um, getting back to Morse...lol I think Morse is a French bulldog. He sure looks like one. |
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kiona girl --> You better change your name...Kiona's my copyrighted character and you need my permission to use her name :angry: |
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sahara-SWP-AF, May 05, 2006 at 15: 49
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i agree with cat! |
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Great article! Good info on the dog breeds. It really made me laugh out load about what you said about Ralph,lol ! Anyway, well done! Very good (especially on Kaltag, hes so cute!):howl: :allears: :grincolonp: |
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| Meeko, May 06, 2006 at 08: 03 | ||
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I don't really care about what the breeds are.It's a movie!°x°O-well just my opinion.:wink: |
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| kiona girl, May 06, 2006 at 13: 55 | ||
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fine i will ask you,cat can you give me kiona girl please |
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| Aleu w, May 06, 2006 at 15: 44 | ||
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ok cat i changed my name sorry, but i just like kiona, oh well, you will say NO! to me, sorry |
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very cool!!!!!!:cool: :P |
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| UlvasMoon-{Trixie}, May 07, 2006 at 08: 48 | ||
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Steele for one is a Malamute, because aren't all Malamutes as muscular as he is? And I think Star is just a small husky. Doc looks more like a sheepdog...or a "shaggy dog", don't cha think?lol...But if we all wanna be scientific on this, he is probably some type of...argh! He is just a fat ball of fur! DO YA HEAR ME! A FAT BALL OF FUR!...with a beard...XD ((And you also made me laugh about the "blob" thing with Ralph...XD)) |
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| kiona and kodi, May 09, 2006 at 12: 42 | ||
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yea i mean steele loks like a husky and malatue |
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| kiona girl, May 09, 2006 at 12: 59 | ||
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yea |
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| ___Kodi___, May 10, 2006 at 06: 17 | ||
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steele looks like demon snow dogs |
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| ___Kodi___, May 10, 2006 at 07: 21 | ||
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^from |
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| mia, May 10, 2006 at 11: 53 | ||
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yeah he does |
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Balto wolfdog, May 11, 2006 at 05: 33
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The Alaskan Malamute is a pure bred dog. No wolfdog, or a wolf. And Many say that the Alaskan Malamute can only have brown eyes, and a few say that they can have any kind of eyes, which includes blue. I thought Steele was a malamute, but now I think he is a pure bred Siberian husky. Here is a pic of a husky: http://www.husky-petlove.com/gal2_Laddie4.jpg and here is a pic of Steele: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~joshual/Balto/balto05.jpg However, The Siberian Husky is also a pure bred dog. And here is some info about Huskies: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dogs-faq/breeds/huskies/ and here is some info about Alaskan malamutes: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dogs-faq/breeds/malamutes/ If you would like to know more about them. Anyways, Here is a few pics of Huskies: http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images8/HuskyStar1.jpg http://www.siberian-husky.pl/dragon/dsc_0035.jpg http://www.bigpawsonly.com/dog-images/siberian-husky-picture.jpg Here is a few pics of Malamutes: http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t040/T040436A.jpg http://www.dog.com/breed/docgrafx/alaskmal.jpg http://www.pedigree.co.nz/breeds/images/alaskan_malamute.jpg Now here is a few pics of Steele: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~joshual/Balto/balto05.jpg http://whitewolf77.tripod.com/screenshots/fight/grrrr.jpg http://whitewolf77.tripod.com/screenshots/fight/fine.jpg Well, What do you really think Steele is now? =) Malamute or Husky? Okay, I dont think Dixie is a Pomeranian.. but I guess we will never know. And that is the same for Steele. =) Nice Article. And I am sorry for my bad spelling! :) (I know this article is not all about Steele.. I just had to tell you what I think about Steele. Well, that's all I had to say. Again this is a good article, and I am sorry for my bad spelling. |
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| kiona girl _2_2, May 12, 2006 at 12: 21 | ||
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i agree |
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Very nice analysis! :grincolonp: But, I gotta disagree on ya with Nikki. I think he's just a big-bodied husky, even though he does look really chowish. But do some chows pull sleds? I've heard Siberian Huskies, Alaskan huskies, chinooks, Alaskan malamutes, and Samoyeds pulling sleds, but never heard of chows. But anyways, nice analysis. :wink: |
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| Dusty huskie, May 15, 2006 at 11: 54 | ||
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i heard of chows |
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What breed is Star??? I think - He's not a husky. I don't know... |
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Emmm... I think - Steele is ALASKAN husky, and Nikki not a chow. Chow-chows are very lazy. http://alaskanmalamute.us/hudsons-adult-malamutes-the-boys-sumo.html - Look at this dog. It's alaskan malamute:) |
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wolfie 14, June 09, 2006 at 20: 32
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good job |
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Actually Steele IS a Malamute. The reason is because he's MUCH too big to be a siberian husky, and he's a lot bigger than the other dogs. and yes he does have malamute traits. His curled tail is a tell-tale sign for one thing. and yes, Malamute CAN have blue eyes. Dixie can't be a pomerainian because if she was, her whole body would be a big fluffy ball, and it's not. she looks more like a lhasa apso with a hair cut. and since her owners are rich, it's likely that thats why she has a cut, it's because she's groomed frequently. Mel is much to small to be an airidal terrier. aridale terrier puppies are bigger than he is. he's probably a yorkie or scottie dog or something. idk and Dipsy isnt a spaniel. it's very clear that she's some kind of hound. probably a basset hound. and yes, Kaltag probably IS a chinook...i agree with that |
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I'm pretty sure the animators put together the best look for Steele, probably basing it off the Siberian Husky and Malamute. When you look at the breed standards Huskys ears are high-set on their head while Malamutes are lower set on their head. Steeles ears are high-set. However his size is bigger than the standard Husky... It's much closer to the size of an Alaskan Malamute. I just think the Animators picked the best of both worlds to make him look the way he does. Mean by being big and all that stuff. But that just my opinion we can never be sure unless we talked to somebody on the film, preferably the animator that animated him. There are just way to many mixed features between the breed, nobody can be sure till we talk to them. Hope that helps guys |
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good info. though I think that Steele was an alaskan husky thanx to his size. the only breed I didn't know about was Kaltag, I hadn't heard of a chinook before. thanx for a new breed discovery! |
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Some of you have no idea on how to tell dogs apart. Steele is a HUSKY. duh°x° Also, Just because you see a black and white malamute that looks like Steele, doesn't mean that thats his breed. Compare him to a Black and white malamute, then a black and white husky. after doing that, whoever thinks he is still a Malamute, dont work with dog breed, cuz you would get fired in a heartbeat if you cant tell those two apart:angry: :issedoff: |
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OMG, I'm SOOO sorry, I got really worked up and frusterated with some people. sorry, I feel TERRIBLE:Be_happy: :cry2: :cryeyesout: :embarassed: :HighlySurprised: :rottentomato: :whimper: |
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Balto wolfdog, July 10, 2006 at 05: 37
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He, no way, is a malamute. Huskies can have curled tails, too.. And Jenna has a curled tail, and so does Steele. Jenna is, however, a PB husky. Malamutes cannot have blue eyes. That's just it. =P I know alot about dogs, and I am sure he isn't an alaskan husky. You don't have to agree, and I don't know for sure.. I am just saying. |
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WolfDogBalto, CALM DOWN, I agree with you and some people are frusterating, BUT I forgive you. Also, Dipsy is not a spanial. She is obviously a basset hound°x° |
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Cavallabianco, April 24, 2007 at 19: 25
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I think: Balto: half wolf, half aboriginal north sled dog (not husky!) Jenna: laika Steele: husky I think because he have slim body. Especially: husky breed for races, or malamute for transport weights. Kaltag: Chinook, agree Nikki (and other big sled dogs in film: http://baltosource.timduru.org/img/gallerie1/12.jpg): Chukotka sled dog
(real Balto I think had this breed)
Sylvie: Afghan Hound,agree Diixie: spitz About laikas and other dogs: http://www.pads.ru/mode.980-id.1082-l.en-type.html . |
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Steele doth be Malamute |
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Oh, my, goodness, people. I know it’s way too late now and none of you will ever see this, but I must say a few words. First of all, Pomeranian traits DO match Dixie reasonably well overall. (Head, size, shape, ears, tail, coat, etc.) If she is supposed to be a purebred, that is almost certainly her breed. If she is just a poofy small dog made up for an animated film who doesn’t have an exact breed, or is a mix, then this is a lot of nonsense over nothing (actually it probably is, anyway!) Ultimately, you just need to consider the overall feel, rather than individual traits...& Pom is a good enough label here, if you must have one. Now, the number of people who shout “Dixie looks like a Lhasa Apso!” astounds me, because of the ridiculousness of that statement. How in the bloody world can a straight-haired, drop-eared breed look more like her than a prick-eared, spitzy-coated one? It’s impossible. Calling her a Lhasa sounds to me like someone is picking a random small dog and trying to make themselves sound smart--and failing. Despite the number of misinformed others who jump on the bandwagon and agree with it. It’s equally absurd to say that she doesn’t look like a Pom. Come on. Find something closer, then. You pretty much can’t. Of COURSE they weren’t going to necessarily draw her as a round puffball, even if they were basing her design directly on a Pom. You want exactness? You won’t get it in an animated movie, not even close! And nothing is a better match for her, not even longhaired Chihuahua, which is second closest (but not Lhasa Apso, for pete’s sake!) Drewthewolf: Your comment that Dixie looks nothing like a Pomeranian shows one thing--that you do not know what a Pom is. Or have it mixed up with something else. She may not be precisely like the typical ultra-fuzzy Poms you see, but again, it is close enough. I can’t believe someone suggested “terrier” for her; that’s worse than Lhasa Apso, which again, is pretty bad, if you mean it as her main component (thanks for your intelligent comment about that, Tik Tac.) I just can’t figure out WHY or HOW some folks would think she DIDN’T resemble a Pom. How precise do you want it? To satisfy you, none of these dogs could have any breeds at all because nothing is similar enough. One more thing. Nox Shadow: Now that we know Lhasa isn’t a very good match, did you ever stop to think that Pomeranians can get their hair cut, too?? That they can be brushed and fluffed-up and groomed so that their bodies look like one big puffy ball, but ALSO can be clipped?? Not all of them are such great big round fluff balls! I know exactly what you’re thinking of, but be reasonable. Even if they based her on a real picture of a Pom like that, for instance, I doubt they would’ve made her quite so poofy--they wanted her to look like she does. They could have been aware of the fact that many times they look like fluff balls, but wanted to tone it down a bit. Artistic license. So yes, I know just what you were getting at, but my gosh, they don’t all always have to look exactly the same way! O.0 There’s been a lot of hype over coat in that breed’s recent history, but it’s not NECESSARY to a Pom. Besides, Poms descend from large sledding dogs and are the smallest spitz breed--seems a logical choice for this movie. Clearly, the book made the biggest error of all in calling her a Malamute. XD But most everyone else in the article, I agree with. Sylvie-Afghan hound, etc., yes. ^^ I’m not getting into Steele or anyone else! |
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Dixie is a Alasa Apso or something like that, not a Pomeranian. |
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The Chinook was bred in 1917 in New England and never reached Alaska in time for the Serum Run. (source: chinook-dogs.org) Historically, it's not possible for Kaltag to be a Chinook. |
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LateRoseofNoonvale: You are mistaken, and I'm sure that you'd need only glance at one photo of a "Lhasa Apso" (correct spelling) and a Pomeranian to know that Dixie IS a Pom and NOT a Lhasa. She is not even close to being a Lhasa, I'm afraid. ![]() As for Kaltag=Chinook being historically impossible...well, it's still cinematically possible! xD (Heck, what ISN'T?!) |
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uuh, i don't know about this, but I DO think Dixie is a pomerainian OR Chiuaua, the long haired type. And for Nikki, chow. Kaltag, not sure, husky maybe. And Steele, did the movie say he was? Then he IS a malumute, if not, he could be a mutt. Wh do you all have to get into fights over these types of things? |
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