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I've used some evedece and idea's of why one of the dogs in Ballto III may be one of the Wolf Quest puppies.


Fire_paw :



                    The puppy returns

 


 While watching Balto three I saw this dog (Below) and it came in mind that it could possibly be one of the puppies from WQ. I know it looks a bit brownish to be one,(This may also be beause off my computer screen, or where the picture has been converted to jpg) \But I'll now explain why I think this. (The dog looked more red in the film, try watching Balto III, it's the last dog in the sled team)



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Ok, this is a puppy chart showing each face of the puppies. And their colours.Saba and the last Unknown pup are the closest matches.




Unnamed  Saba     Alue        Kodi          Dingo     No name

 



 

 



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Now below is the puppies that couldn't possible be this dog. Alue is defiantly not this dog, as she went across the sea with the wolf clan as their leader in Balto II Wolf Quest. Kodi can not be him, as we all know what Kodi looks like in Balto III. And it is not the red faced pup, reason being it has markings on its face. Dingo has the same markings as Alue, but not the same as this dog. So that just leaves Saba and the other unknown puppy.

 


 



 

 



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Now I've looked closely, judging by the dogs look I'd say it was a male dog. The unknown puppy also, in my view looks like a male. I've done some colour tests, the dog has purple black eyes, and the unknown pup has Black, Saba, however has blue eyes.

 




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Now for the fur. Yes, the dog’s fur is slightly more brownish. (Which may just be my screen or the jpg. format)

 


But considering the facts. In Balto II it was daylight and the puppy was bright red, however in Balto III, the dog is in the shadow of one of the houses. Also, Kodi's colour changed a lot from since he was a puppy. And in the film, the dog on trhe back of the sled team is a little more red.


 


 


   The puppy fur      The dog fur         Puppy



 

 



       Kodi ^          Kodi(Adult) ^        The dog ^

 



 

 



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Now back to the face markings. See that the marking are very similar, Apart from the top of the head where there is a small triangular shape, of white fur pointing upwards on the puppy.

 


 



The fur points inwards just below the eyes on both dogs. The fur points out wards in line with the upper mouth.



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These are my reasons of what I think,

 


                                   


                                     Written by Fire_Paw


 




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   blueeyedwolf, August 05, 2007 at 19: 20

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good article although im not sure


   carribbeanlady, August 05, 2007 at 20: 03

Member

Very nice although I have to disagree. I think Jenna would have noticed her own pup when they were in the race. Quote from Balto 3 before the race starts Jenna comes to see them off: Jenna: Good luck you two! Very nice otherwise. ;)


   Collie tracer, August 05, 2007 at 20: 59

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Awsome and it's possible


   Baltra, August 05, 2007 at 21: 47

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The dog has complete other markings in his face and no markings on his legs like the pups from Balto. I think not he is one of Balto's pups.


   Dragon Tamer, August 06, 2007 at 01: 37

Webranker

Nice work, Sherlock! I never would have noticed that! However, although I've had some rough encounters with carribbeanlady before, I have to agree with her reasoning on htis one. Sorry.


   faithful~friend, August 06, 2007 at 03: 02

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That dog is also the wheel dog on kodi's sled team, or and identical twin. Like caribbean lady said Jenna would have said something, and the animators would have said something. There can also be no way that cold be Balto's pup because the fur on the 'dog' looks nothing like the 'unnamed' pup.


   Spirit_wolf12, August 06, 2007 at 03: 31

Member

I noticed that, too XD Nice article, you give good evidence.


OwnedByAGoldenRetriever, August 06, 2007 at 06: 18
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Most other dogs look like that (well, not most, but you know what I mean). It's a good fanfic idea, but I doubt the animators meant for it to happen - plus, Jenna and Balto wouldn't ignore their son like that.


   Cobalt, August 06, 2007 at 07: 35

Member

Nice reasoning, but Jenna wouldn't ignore her son like that .


   catwhohas14tails, August 06, 2007 at 16: 57

Member

Your Dingo and Saba names have been misled.


   Kelev, August 06, 2007 at 17: 18

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I have to agree with carribianlady and Dragon Tamer. Sorry.


   Saphira, August 06, 2007 at 19: 11

Member

Nice article!


   Theo the Brave, August 06, 2007 at 21: 44

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Why are all these people making a fuss about the pups? And for the last time, the dark unknown pup on the left is DINGO!!! I know this for a fact because in B2 when a human came and chose that pup Jenna said "I know that human! He'd be a good boy for Dingo." Get it through your heads! That Dark pup is Dingo, I swear it is!


   Sticklem, August 06, 2007 at 21: 59

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When I first watch Balto III I'd think the dog is Dingo


   steele_rox, August 07, 2007 at 02: 55

Member

wow!!!! That is sweet! I never would have noticed that! When I watched Balto 111, I only focussed on the dogs I knew! Like Kirby, Ralph, and Kodi. Balto and Jenna and Boris. Those guys! I would never have thought to look at that! It is definetly possible!!! Looovvvee the article!!!!!!


   catwhohas14tails, August 07, 2007 at 03: 11

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   TealHusky, August 07, 2007 at 07: 36

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I disagree greatly. That is not the pup...


   Fire_Paw, August 07, 2007 at 16: 22

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Well, Like I said, these are my view so I don't really feel bad if people start shouting "It not the pup" So, thanks for replying all, but this is what I think. I just had the idea. Cat~ *Groan* Sorry if the names where messed up. Everyone who wrote "Jenna wouldn't ignore him" That is a very good point,


   Theo the Brave, August 08, 2007 at 01: 33

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Fire_Paw, even if you don't feel bad...I apologize. I was trying to make a point because lately, no one seems to remember that line Jenna said in B2. What's the matter with these animators? In B3, they seem to just copy fur patterns all the time. Like that "Dusty Looks Like Alue" thread. Which she does, doesn't she? So that proves the animators are being lazy and not using variety in fur patterns. Well, sorry again, Fire_Paw.


harpier, August 08, 2007 at 16: 56
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It is wrong, as Theo the Brave said.


   Fire_Paw, August 08, 2007 at 18: 17

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Theo~ It's ok. I know the dark furred pup is Dingo, but since I joined the site everyonew was going on about it was the un named one. So I do know, but I'm just used to the other way. But who ever it is, Dingo, or the dark pup on the left is the one I mean.


   Zorro the Coyote, August 10, 2007 at 09: 57

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Note. The pup you have just compaired here is Dingo, not the striped one. The masked one and the striped one were the only ones without names. Common mistake though. Good article but I'm sure it was unintentional.


   CatWings, August 10, 2007 at 18: 33

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Thsi si a very good article. good facts and evidence to support your theory


   Aleu45, August 13, 2007 at 04: 06

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wow.. that is very cool. i never realized that. great article.


   aniuspiritwolf, August 14, 2007 at 15: 37

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i was watching balto 2 yesterday and i noticed that ding and saba have a simalar voice also i watched balto 3 and i cant find that dog anywhere(picture at the top)


   harpier, August 14, 2007 at 19: 09

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Anyaway, it isn't likely to be Kodi's brother, but the facial anatomy suggests that the dog in question may be related to Kirby.


   baltobabe9000, September 12, 2007 at 21: 51

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wow that was a cool article! i wanna watch again


   Pippy the sleddog, October 20, 2007 at 01: 33

Member

Yeaaaa.... Great work on the article, but I don't think there is any similarity between the puppies and that dog. I must agree with carribbeanlady.


   _twiligthwolf_, October 30, 2007 at 07: 55

Member

Good article.But i dont think it is a puppy from Balto 2


   Fire_Paw, November 10, 2007 at 18: 34

Member

Important!: I have found that the most popular reason of disagreement was the part where, "Quote: Good luck you TWO" As carribbeanlady said. But I have noticed on Balto three, that after Jenna says that line she turns around and begins talking to the dogs behind Balto and Kodi.


Lex, December 05, 2007 at 19: 10
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Quote from the movie: "Good luck you two!" This could have been towards the unnamed pup (who I personally like to call Barrow) and Kodi, joking that Balto wouldn't need help because he's done it before.

Very, very nice article. I'm going to agree


OwnedByAGoldenRetriever, December 16, 2007 at 00: 09
Member

Also note that none of the pups in WQ had the solid-coloured legs like that dog does.


   MiaWolf, January 23, 2008 at 02: 04

Member

Nice, but I also disagree. Ever think it may just be another dog on the sled team? That's like trying to say that some of the dogs in Balto 1 are someone's bro, sis, mom, or dad, just because they look alike.


   wolf_girl_772, June 08, 2008 at 23: 18

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WOW! You obviously put A LOT of effort into doing this! Perhaps you could be a detective? But I have to agree with carribbeanlady and the rest, that this probably isn't the pup. That's just what I think, but no matter what anyone says, you put a lot of work into this article and no one can change that. Good work!


   Natticat8, June 12, 2008 at 01: 02

Member

No offense, but I personally think that that dog is too ugly to be that Dingo.


   Dakota The Black Wolf, June 15, 2008 at 17: 57

Member

You mixed up dingo with the unknown puppy with the red bridge!!!!


   Sandstorm, August 17, 2008 at 18: 55

Member

I don't think the two are similar.
1. the the pup and the dog are in no way close in color.
2. The puppies have white triangles reaching up between their eyebrows, that grown up dog doesn't.

Nice article though.


   moon the night hunter, September 28, 2008 at 12: 13

Member

I think it is a great article...and you have evidence to support your theory, I think you are right, though you could be wrong, ive watched WOC and WQ heaps of times...nvm good article anyway


   Wolf Paws 1311, November 15, 2008 at 14: 22

Member

Great article! I never noticed that, so you did an awesome job! I strongly agree with you, that could be a pup! (By the way, I agree on who you believe is Dingo. He is the red Aleu twin.)


   Kittylover, November 24, 2008 at 00: 57

Member

For one, the dog is brown and all the puppies are clearly red except Aleu.
For another, the closeness in their faces could simply be a result in the likeness of ways that the Artist draws the dogs. The facial structures would of course be similiar.
And for last, that dog looks absolutely nothing like any of the pups. and in fact looks way older than any pup in the litter would be. That is plainly not one of the pups, or else you would probably see Jenna and Balto saying hi or something not ignoring it and such.
Good article though, I could tell you were trying pretty hard to find the likeness'.


   Timberwolf61, November 26, 2008 at 02: 53

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I love the article!!! i think the same thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pm me!


   jerseycaptain, November 28, 2008 at 06: 49

Member

As to the small chart of puppies included in your article, you need to reverse the last two. Please note the following:

http://baltosource.timduru.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23387

I also agree with others who have commented that the dog you mentioned couldn't be any of Balto & Jenna's pups. Indeed, the colors are wrong. Further, had the writers wished to infer (or establish) that this was one of their pups, they would have made it more apparent.

Nope. As I see it, this is simply a random dog placed into the opening sequences to give further nod to the fact that Nome was a dog-centric town (and still is, as I've been there myself this year, and can verify that fact. If you go to the True Story board in the forum, and go to my topic on the pics from my trip to Alaska, you'll see the post about Nome dogs, with pics in it).

You did a nice job of analysis, but I do believe your conclusions are wrong.


   zasha10 , November 28, 2008 at 14: 00

Member

Good artical but I'm not sure,and The red alue twin is an unknown pup along with the red faced pup,The pup you thought was the other unknown pup was dingo,The animators messed up on thaat part so it's easy to get confused


   jerseycaptain, November 28, 2008 at 14: 11

Member

Incidentally, Fire_paw, it's "Aleu"... (man, how many forum topics, answers to questions, and articles do there have to be to get people in line with this? )...



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