What dids Kovu do?

Nessa :



You know in the Lion King 2: Simba's pride that Kovu and all the other outsiders were exiled. But why? For some reason Simba hated them. Was he prejudice against the way the looked or did the do a crime? When Kovu rescues Kiara he asks to jion the pride landers.'Judge me now for who I am or am I to be blamed for a crime I didn't commit.' What is this crime? and who commited it? Disney should said or put in some stuff from the past of why the outlanders were exiled. Or they should of had kovu and simba talk about the crime.
Why was Zira trying to kill Simba? Simba couldn't of killed Scar(Taka) because the hyena's did..
Conclusion there are loads of unsolved mysterys in the lion king(s).

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me, April 18, 2006 at 23: 21

Right here I go. Simba hated the outlanders because they were "scars people" and Scar was evil and killed Muffasa, but in the end Kiara showed him they were all the same and weren't evil. Simba knew Kovu was chosen by Scar to become king so, I guess his "crime" was to attempt to take over the thrown. Or maybe Simba is blaming Kovu for Muffasa's death, remember his nightmare? Zira didn't know scar was killed by the hyenas, she thought Simba did it, thats why she wanted to kill him. Well, those are my thoughts.

Nessa, April 19, 2006 at 03: 36

But I mean the lions jioned simba's pride and if they hated him why did they?

me, April 19, 2006 at 17: 58

The outlanders followed Zira, she told them he was evil and they should hate him, but when Zira started to turn against them and well, go crazy they saw that Simba was the good one, and they also believed what Kiara said "we are one", so they went to the pridelands.

me, April 21, 2006 at 12: 30

They followed Zira, they had no oppinion on Simba, then they saw for themselves he was the good one and she was the bad one.

Lilt, April 22, 2006 at 16: 54

I agree with me. Great article!;)

Nessa, April 22, 2006 at 20: 45

thanks.

Juuchan17, April 24, 2006 at 06: 11

I agree with me's response. The other Outlander lionesses did nothing wrong, except follow their leader's orders. But to answer your question: I think what Kovu meant by his statement was that he knew that Simba knew it was Kovu's destiny to follow Scar's pawprints (duh, Zira told him that early in the film when Kovu and Kiara first met). I guess the "crime" that Kovu is referring to is the crime of being "Scar's heir" (I mean, look at him! He's got the look and all, and later on, Zira adds the scar for a finishing touch.), which was something that he only followed because Zira made him do it (I mean, it was either him or Nuka . . . and honestly, could you really see Nuka as the overtaker of Pride Rock? Really.). And the only reason why Zira wanted to overtake and kill Simba was because he kicked them out of what they believed was their land (because Scar had ruled it before Simba defeated him). The lionesses seemed brain-washed by Zira to kill and destroy, as did Kovu before he started falling more and more in love with Kiara and began to learn from Simba about the truth of whose pawprints he was chosen to follow. But I do agree that it would have been nice to hear if there were other reasons why Simba hated the Outlanders so much. Great article BTW! This is a great discussion!

perfectpureblood, April 24, 2006 at 21: 01 Member

(was called me) Yea, I agree with juuchan17, and also that this is a great article!

Nessa, April 25, 2006 at 02: 30

but why did simba banned all those outsiders and or did she like gather followers and then they finally realized Kiara was right they were one?:icon29:

perfectpureblood, April 25, 2006 at 18: 11 Member

Ok, Simba banned them because they were Scars "people" when Scar died they became Ziras "people" because she was Scars mate. then when they realized what Zira was telling them to do was wrong, they moved to Simbas side.

Nessa, April 29, 2006 at 00: 31 Member

no... nvm.. it is hard to explain what i mean..

perfectpureblood, April 29, 2006 at 22: 43 Member

Never mind, i'm bad at explaining things and now i'm just being annoying!:red:

Domino tiger girl, April 30, 2006 at 20: 30

i so sorry for you but, i didn't know kovu has a secret..

Domino tiger girl, April 30, 2006 at 20: 31

i agree me,

stranger, May 02, 2006 at 00: 32

:) back

Juuchan17, May 02, 2006 at 16: 01 Fan gamebook mod

Domino: Kovu didn't really have a "secret" secret. It's just the fact that he was chosen to be Scar's heir (probably without his permission) is the only thing that I could think of as a terrible secret. He didn't choose for this to happen, but he was trained to become the overtaker of Simba and Pride Rock (thanks to Zira).

___Simba___, May 18, 2006 at 01: 33 Member

secret??:o °x°

lion, May 18, 2006 at 19: 40 Member

IT DID`T TELL YOU WHAT KOVU`S SECRET WAS IT JUST TOLD YOU LION KING MISTERES!

lion, May 18, 2006 at 19: 46 Member

WHAT SECRET?!:/:

lion, May 18, 2006 at 20: 14 Member

WHY IS IT CALLED A SECRET...:/:

peanut lion, May 26, 2006 at 22: 37 Member

i heard zira and her followers killed kopa in order 4 kovu 2 take over

lexipooh10, May 29, 2006 at 01: 23 Member

I read something that Simba said,"Zira,you are exsiled and anyone else who decides to follow her!"

hmm, June 10, 2006 at 08: 10

well i think that simba hates the outlanders because they followed scar, and scar killed his father, so i guess that kovu meant that he didnt kill his father so why would he be affected by that:icon310:

9 lives, June 14, 2006 at 22: 04

When Scar was killed, Zira must have thought that Simba killed him and tried to kill simba for revenge. Simba fended them off and exiled them because they tried to kill him. Also, since Zira is Kovu's mother, then, Simba showed poor judgment by blaming kovu for something that his mother did, but he has the right to be suspitious because kovu was trained to kill Simba

Akilah, June 17, 2006 at 05: 15 Member

ok HERE'S what happened. Simba banished the outsiders because they were Scar's followers. It's Simba's fault that Scar was killed, so he had to banish his followers so they wouldn't try to kill him for killing Scar. When Kovu said that thing about about being blamed for a crime he didn't commit, he was talking about Scar's crime of killing Mufasa and destroying the pridelands. Simba doesn't like the outsiders because of Scar. All Kovu is saying is that it's not his fault for what Scar did, so he doesn't want Simba to judge him for that.

stephanie, July 14, 2006 at 19: 37

ok here i go...the reason that simba banished the outlanders...is because they were all followers of scar and...he didnt want them to turn on him and his pride so he exiled him..and the reason he didnt like kovu at first was becasue he was chosen to follow in scars footprints and take over the pridelands...simba was well aware of this..and simba doesnt blame kovu for mufasas death...the dreram was mearly his fear that what happened to him and his dad...how mufasa was killed and simba thought that it was his fault..and all the pain that he felt..he didnt want the same thing to happen between him ans kovu..kovu kills him and blames kiara..kiara goes through the suffering that simbe did...and take over the pride lands and let zira and the outlanders in:o

Sarafina57, July 16, 2006 at 03: 15 Member

well zira still blamed simba for coming back and taking away all that had glorified scar...remember supposedly she was scar's queen and when simba came back she wasnt...and well kovu was probably refering to the fact he looks a lot like scar and simba associated him with scar and all that scar did..

lexipooh10, July 24, 2006 at 23: 00 Member

ok,simba exiled the outsiders because they killed kopa,the cub before kiara.

KingSimba, January 06, 2007 at 21: 20 Member

Okay, here it goes. Simba banished Zira because she was Scar's mate. He banished the others because they were Zira's followers. And to the 'crime I didn't commit' thing; Simba was all angry over the fact that Kovu rescued his daughter, and 'a CRIME that I...' the 'crime' was rescuing his daughter. Another theory to why Zira might have been banished. Simba might have let Zira stay; and many fans (including me) think that Kovu and Vitani aren't Scar's cubs. Maybe Zira was plotting revenge against Simba whilst she was in the pridelands after Scar's death, and forced a lioness to give her two babies, Kovu and Vitani, to her. The lioness who was the real mother to Kovu and Vitani must have repoted to Simba. Simba then must have banished Zira, and tried to get the cubs, but failed. Just a theory. -KS.

KingSimba, January 06, 2007 at 21: 24 Member

Okay, here it goes. Simba banished Zira because she was Scar's mate. He banished the others because they were Zira's followers. And to the 'crime I didn't commit' thing; Simba was all angry over the fact that Kovu rescued his daughter, and 'a CRIME that I...' the 'crime' was rescuing his daughter. Another theory to why Zira might have been banished. Simba might have let Zira stay; and many fans (including me) think that Kovu and Vitani aren't Scar's cubs. Maybe Zira was plotting revenge against Simba whilst she was in the pridelands after Scar's death, and forced a lioness to give her two babies, Kovu and Vitani, to her. The lioness who was the real mother to Kovu and Vitani must have repoted to Simba. Simba then must have banished Zira, and tried to get the cubs, but failed. Just a theory. -KS.

little c4t, May 17, 2007 at 21: 03 Member

well i think that when simba exiled them it was because maybe when zira was looking after baby nuka and then baby vitani, those lionesses were probably friends with her and helped her. then when simba came back, they knew that zira wouldn't leave scar and so they stayed on her side so that they didn't betray a friend. so simba exiled them for taking zira and scar's side and he exiled zira for being loyal to scar and being his mate. after kovu rescued kiara he probably meant that simba was blaming him because he was zira's son and simba thought that because kovu had to walk in scar's pawprints he was just like him. and i think that the reason that zira wanted to kill simba and blamed him for scar's death was because if she did have two cubs and probably another on the way or newborn she wouldn't be out fighting because she'd have to look after them. well, that's what i think but i could be wrong.

lionlover101, August 26, 2007 at 04: 15 Member

KOVU HAS NO SECRET

greendrag, October 18, 2007 at 16: 52 Member

I think Zira killed Kopa and when Simba exiled her and her friends (which would mean Scar's followers) or he was afraid they might kill him or they didn't want him as their king.

vitanivixen, March 09, 2008 at 20: 29 Member

zira & her pride where hunting during the battle so when they saw scar dead they assumed simba had killed him & they rejoined the pride & convinced the hyenas to kidnap kopa for them while he was out playing & Zira killed Kopa & simba found out & banished the outlanders & the hyenas & the outlanders wanted revenge on simba & simba became extremly over protective of Kiara & hated the outlanders for killing his son.Simple.

purpletwist, April 30, 2008 at 22: 04 Member

ok Simba probly hated Zira casue some say she killed Simba's son kopa. maybe that's why he hate her

emily123, June 28, 2008 at 05: 33 Member

lion--> Please stop smamming. If you don't have an actual comment, don't post at all. It's very unusual (for me anyways) for someone to watch a sequal without even watching the original. In other words, I think that the producers thought the viewers would understand.

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