How Scar's pride of Outlanders possibly came to be . . .

Juuchan17 :



Okay, okay. We all know that after Mufasa died, his brother, Scar (AKA Taka) took over the throne. Also, we know, thanks to TLK2, that Scar had lion followers and possibly a lead mate (Zira).

The only way this is possible is if his lionesses, the Outlanders, were originally from the pride that lived at Pride Rock!

I mean, when you think about it, it kind of makes sense:

- From what the movies show, there were no other prides nearby (well, they weren't shown anyway).
- While he was king, Scar had the control of all of the lionesses, meaning he had enough time to mate with as many females that he wanted (just like real male lions would do), to make sure that, in case something happened to him, he would have an immediate heir to the throne.
(IMO, this is probably how Nuka and Vitani came to be. No one is sure how Kovu truly became the heir when he was supposedly the 'last born' before their exile from the Pridelands.)

I mean, that would give Simba more of a reason to exile those that opposed him to the Outlands - for following Scar's rule.

It was a long period of time between Mufasa's death and the reuniting of Simba and Nala, which gives Scar lots of time to reproduce cubs with his blood in them, since most of the lionesses were out hunting, the hyenas were eating, and possibly there was a couple of females that were caring for cubs, even if they were the spawn of Scar.

I don't think that Scar knew of his 'followers' until after he took over Pride Rock, but before the 'Be Prepared' song in TLK, he did say he was 'surrounded by idiots' (meaning the hyenas) . . . if I remember correctly; I'm guessing he didn't like the hyenas that much, unless they did what he ordered.

This would give him more of a reason to try and convert lionesses to his side and make cubs, forming his own pride to help order around the still loyal lionesses (like Sarabi, Sarafina, and Nala). If there were any other lionesses that didn't live at Pride Rock, the Scar-loyal lionesses possibly forced them to join their pact of loyalty to King Scar.

In conclusion, it is unknown how the Outlanders really came to be, but this way makes the most sense. If Scar was so much of a lion, he would be forceful into making the lionesses his own, destroying all things that were not his own (mainly cubs) and weakening those that defied his rule.

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Nessa, April 29, 2006 at 16: 31 Member

kinda makes sense. good article. i think the outlanders were just followers of scar till the realized Kiara was right but great article.

Thunderbolt, April 29, 2006 at 17: 15 Member

Scar didn't mate with Zira!!!

Juuchan17, April 30, 2006 at 06: 22 Fan gamebook mod

Thunderbolt: I never said that she did. Actually, I never said that at all; I just said that Scar must have mated with the lionesses in order to spread his bloodline, allowing an heir from his blood, that's all.

Juuchan17, April 30, 2006 at 06: 27 Fan gamebook mod

Nessa: I was thinking that too. I just thought the whole situation over, and it's obvious that something went on while Simba was away (believed to be dead) and Scar was in rule.

Nessa, April 30, 2006 at 18: 57 Member

Zira was scar's mate but he wasn't Kovu's farther but I think he was Nuka's and or maybe Vitani. I think Zira cheated on him and had Kovu but he accepted Kovu because he looked like him. and the rest werwe just loyal follwers.

Juuchan17, May 01, 2006 at 06: 32 Fan gamebook mod

Or Kovu's father abandoned him and Zira, perhaps? I dunno. This is one of those questions that has lots of solutions, but we'll probably never know the real answer.

Juuchan17, May 02, 2006 at 15: 43 Fan gamebook mod

Thanks, Domino! It's just a theory, but I think it makes perfect sense, especially if this were based on the lifestyles of real lions.

Silverhowl, May 06, 2006 at 23: 02 Member

:! I dont understand, but I do know that SCAR DIDNT MATE WITH ANYONE.

Juuchan17, May 09, 2006 at 02: 34 Fan gamebook mod

Silverhowl: How do you know? The first film goes from Scar taking over and then focuses on Simba and his new life with Timon and Pumbaa. It never mentions what else Scar did while he was in charge, so anything could happen, really. (And also, this is a children's movie by Disney. Do you really think they would mention anything about Scar mating (or worse, raping) any of the lionesses? Of course not.) That's just my thought on this.

Panda, May 10, 2006 at 20: 40

Original: The Lion King Italy: Il Re Leone:P

mole:3, May 13, 2006 at 14: 42

good point, that sounds about right

lion, May 17, 2006 at 18: 31 Member

I DON`T GET IT AND WHO WANTS TO READ ALL THAT WRITING... NOT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lexipooh10, May 28, 2006 at 09: 33 Member

Silverhowl:If Scar didn't mate with anyone then who is the father of Nuka and Vitani?

TLKFan, May 29, 2006 at 11: 16

I recall a line that goes something like "I banished you from the pridelands." and "You know what the price is for RETURNING to the pridelands" so obviously they were banished at some point in time... also, they kinda made the plot obvious in the beginning of TLK2... think about it, a female cub... with no male cub... in other words the pride would have been doomed unless she met kovu and they mated down the road. Never was there another cub in TLK1 or TLK2 (except nala of course)

Tibb_wolf, June 27, 2006 at 12: 59 Member

Silverhowl->> Scar matted with Zira. He's more than likely the father of Nuka at least! Just accept that. And nice article!! I've never really thought of where that outsider pride came from!

halfmoonhowl, June 28, 2006 at 11: 07 Member

lion: That was extremely rude. It's an excellent article and brings up a fantastic point that was never fully explained in the movie.

ellisha89, September 01, 2006 at 06: 18

who is nala's father? it seems to mem liound at that time were mufasa and scar and if one of them were her father then the it too would be inscest!

Phoenix blade, March 09, 2007 at 15: 21 Member

It makes sense.It has a fantastic point to it.Good article...Keep it up.

Beltar, March 18, 2007 at 21: 30 Member

You thought about outlanders? That’s great. Look farther and you will see that you are wrong. SP can not be positioned as TLK2, because there is [u]no explanation about outlanders[/u]. You can suggest that Scar made many cubs but it’s natural for females to mate with the only male. Simba may be not too glad about but this is his personal problem. [u]There is no conflict inside pride.[/u] [quote] convert lionesses to his side [/quote] He must offer to them something really great. Something literally to die for. But lionesses lived well under Mufasa’s reign and not so well under Skar’s. So lionesses have no reasons to believe Scar. [quote] destroying all things that were not his own (mainly cubs) [/quote] Nice way to get support from the lionesses. To kill their cubs. No comments. X)

Vetani C@T***, May 31, 2007 at 14: 59 Member

Wait, so Zira could have been part of theire, pride, she said she DID get exhiled!

mrspotter, November 25, 2007 at 12: 28 Member

ye they were part of the pride but simba banished them for following scar before kiara was born.

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